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. the challenger was ronald reagan. everybody knows how the election came out that year. that's not what we're talking ant here. what we're talking about is who won that first debate. incumbent president jimmy carter or was it the challenger, ronald reagan? >> leaving cleveland this morning, the president had a message for anyone who thought reagan had come across better in the debate. >> i think the issues are more important than the performance. >> the president is visibly more relaxed today than he was on the stage with governor reagan last night. since there's no way to know yet for sure which man helped himself the most, it's likely that the president is simply relieved that the debate that many of his advisers never wanted in the first place is finally behind him. >> relieved that it is over. so that was the coverage the day after the reagan/carter debate. because reagan went on to win the election that year, retrospectively that 1980 debate has been inviewed with a lot of over the top reagan worship stuff about his there you go again line and his are you better off than you were four
, because you weren't even born in 1980. >> i was not, yeah. >> but ronald reagan, people forget, before the debate, ronald reagan was painted as this looney, right-wing fanatic that would start world war iii, dr. strangelove, and it was the debate that stuck a needle in that balloon. >> i remember it well. >> not even born yet. i mean, this is romney's chance. >> sure. >> to connect with the american people. >> to pick up on mike's point, fascinating number from the poll is this. 51% of people who said they had heard or read something about romney in the last couple weeks said what they had heard or read made them think more negatively about him. more positively, that number was 48%. they've heard him going into this debate. this provides them a chance to say, listen, that guy you saw in the video, that's not me. i'm a different type of person. he can reset in that sense. i'm sort of with al on this. i spent a lot of time over the past week watching all of romney's debates from 2002. i watched every single debate. there were five of them. i read hundreds of clips in 2002. he was against
ronald reagan did in his debate against jimmy carter. people don't remember all the facts and figures, the recitation of the facts and figures, they remember a significant line or a significant phrase that brings them back to reality. >> senator john mccain is the only man who has debated both of these individuals. he weighed in on the expectations this morning. take a listen. >> serve and provide us -- >> it's not just that they go bankrupt, he doesn't understand -- >> comments that grabbed everybody's attention. because frankly, the candidates are too well prepared. they're well scripted. >> what you did not hear the beginning there, is the senator said i think you're going to see more viewers, than any debate in history. and then he also said he can't remember the last time that any of these things affected the outcome of a presidential race. save 1960 and 2000, have the debates ever really impacted the outcome of a race, chris kofinis? >> it's funny, i hear the debate about debates not necessarily mattering. and i actually disagree with that i think the 1980, the reagan/carter deb
of the fabric of who the person is. when ronald reagan said there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of tick off, oh, that was the prepared zinger. did he bring it off? >> oh, yeah. >> the other thing is he's not very good at this. i mean, you know, i know they don't want him to be spontaneous because he'll say the wrong thing, but delivered a prepared funny line seems to me to be one of the hardest tasks probably even harder than telling us what's in his tax plan. >> as a journalist, joan, i want your view. suppose you're watching the debate as we all will be, everybody is going to be watching wednesday night, and you see what is obviously is prefab zinger that doesn't even s
the challenger but think about, for example, mitt romney's challenge versus ronald reagan's challenge in 1980, ronald reagan's challenge was to convince people that the viewers out there, that he had the gravitas, the intellectual force to be president. he didn't have to convince them he was likable. that seems to be an easier challenge to achieve than for a mitt romney to come across to people as somebody they want to have in their living room for the next four years talking to them when that has been the challenge all along that people have not for one reason or another really warmed up to him. that's going to be hard to do in the course of a debate and also in the course of a debate where you simultaneously want to be likable but also to rattle your opponent a little bit. >> you have to be negative and irritating and try to get president obama off his game, but at the same time be likable coming on the heels of the 47% remark. >> that's a lot. a lot of work mitt romney has to do. president obama has some real work to do it too. he, as we've seen him throughout the democratic nomination fig
it and after it will matter. the 1980 carter debate with ronald reagan where he said there you go again, calling the sitting president a liar basically. that's when carter started collapsing. you've got a few moments to make the one-liners catch and stick. all of the substance will get lost in the minutia. romney needs one worse than the president right now. >> instead of o owe is it like trying to figure out what the zinger is going to be that will get retweeted on a hash tag? >> yes, that it is. >> it makes me so sad. >> well, yes. as you said, the stakes are higher for mitt romney. keep this mind, this is a man who has been running for president for six years. >> right. >> it's come down to this one moment, this first debate on wednesday where he's got to change the trajectory of his campaign, of the narrative with at that point, what is it 35 days in the race. >>> yeah. >> you're the political scientist here. you're the nerd here at the table. just to my mind, i do not see how practically speaking mitt romney can change the trajectory and move his campaign into a positive position w
'm losing to this guy." playing michael dukakis. you really do have to go back to ronald reagan to find a republican that was in command during a presidential debate. and i predict that's going to excite the republican base in a way it hasn't been excited in a very long time. we're not used to winning debates like this. >> right. >> i'd even -- i think you're exactly right. and i'd push back even farther. he was better than nixon. and he was better than ford. so you could argue, except for president reagan, governor reagan then, it was, in fact, the strongest republican debate performance in the history of televised debates. the other thing that i find so interesting -- and joe, i wonder what you think about this -- is this was not a tea party message. one of the reasons perhaps governor romney did so well is that this might actually be the real governor romney at last. >> yep. >> and it was a very -- people could take me on on this, i would argue that was a mainstream conservative message that could have been largely unchanged except for the tales from 1980 forward. and that is somethi
to that wonderful by ronald reagan, there you go again. >> how much you want to bet, it doesn't work? >> $10,000 bet? >>> on the eve of election day in ohio, they are sleeping overnight at polling places. we'll go live to cleveland where nina turner is camping out for early voting. >>> and house majority leader eric cantor is fighting for his political life in his own district. wayne powell will join me live following tonight's big debate. >>> good evening, americans. good to have you with us. republicans are hoping for a game changer in the next few days, but romney's path to victory is starting to disappear. president obama is ahead in all of the vital swing states needed for victory. if the election were held today an associated press analysis shows president obama would win at least 271 electoral votes. 270 votes wins the presidency. the romney campaign, no doubt, is struggling to, say the least. romney's own running mate was forced to admit how their campaign has stumbled. >> so, yeah, we have had some missteps, but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. we're giving people a clear
in history of, there you go again, ronald reagan and jimmy carter. that seems to be what they're going for. we thought let's come up with our own suggested zingers or mitt romney. >> we're all about helping out romney. >> i came up with one. i'll lead it off. maybe romney can say something like barack obama is almost as unreliable as my backup yacht. zing. >> zing! >> mine is even worse than that. >> impossible. >> barack obama, try baracko'pologizes for america. >> zinger. >> mine is want to hear a joke? the national debt. zing! >> i like the sound effect. >> i imagine romney might actually say to paraphrase "top gun" your ego is writing checks your government can't cash. >> you misunderstood the assignment. >> i got a good one from nick who helps us out. tough on foreign policy. even his hairline is receding. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> yeah, no. it's amazing to me when you look at these and you see this, it can be funnier not in presidential debates, senate races, house races, where they show up and try too hard and often you find that's their undoing. >> i was going to say, i th
in the past three decades. ronald reagan made a deal with tip o'neil. it was for tax increases and spending control. >> hurt republicans when they ran for office, didn't it? >> they got the tax increases. they didn't get spending cuts. he got the tax increases ch he didn't get the spending cuts. >> do you think it was a governing mistake. if he gets elected president, is he going to regret that? >> i think the crisis we face financially is so severe that all the discussion of finances last night, you can fergs. we don't have the money to expand the military. we don't have the money you have to overhaul sos to keep it sound. >> he wants to spend more money in the military. do you think that's a mistake? >> the money isn't there. >> david, this is where the obama campaign wants to go. it's saying, yes, we lost on style. but romney made himself -- i mean, senator, it's a complicated argument he's making on these issues. >> absolutely. and it's going to make sense after the the election. we're facing a fiscal cliff. all the consumers will come into play. and i obama campaign is going to say, lo
to have to be tweaked the way it was by ronald reagan and speaker, democratic speaker tip o'neill. but the basic structure is sound. but i want to talk about the values behind social security and medicare. and then talk about medicare. because that's the big driver -- >> you bet. >> -- of our deficits right now. you know, my grandmother, some of you know, helped to raise me, my grandparents did. my grandfather died a while back. my grandmother died three days before i was elected president. and she was fiercely independent. she worked her way up, only had a high school education, started as a secretary, ended up being the vice president of a local bank. and she ended up living alone by choice. and the reason she could be independent is because of social security and medicare. she had worked all her life, put in this money, and understood that there was a basic guarantee, a floor under which she could not go. and that's the perspective i bring when i think about what's called entitlements. you know, the name itself implies some sense of dependency on the part of these folks.
talk about all the time. i talked about tip o'neill and ronald reagan of the 1980s. didn't see eye to eye. they got things done. '90s you and bill clinton. a fascinating character. you guys obviously didn't see eye to eye. you got things done. and bill clinton is having a huge impact in this race. rich lowry of course of the national review said if you want to see when this election turned it was in the middle of bill clinton's speech. this guy still -- you said something about georgia ads. what was that? >> i was told last night by randy evans who is the national committeeman from georgia that there are more ads in georgia for obama with clinton in them than there are with obama in them. which makes sense. you know, bill clinton is the best political figure in terms of skill since ronald reagan. >> right. >> that's just a fact. >> right. >> and his ability to communicate, i thought his speech, which i had to watch, i actually didn't watch the obama speech. >> right. >> i watched the clinton speech. i thought it would be more creative, more interesting. and it turned out to be a lo
dwroefr come. it's not easy to beat an incumbent president, and mitt romney is no ronald reagan or bill clinton. >> when you have an incumbent president with 8% unemployment, it's very difficult to win. romney has proven to be the worst candidate we've seen in perhaps 30, 40 years. i go back to steve's memory now when we get into 50, 60, 70 years. i agree with what's said including your points about mccain. if romney ran in '08 as he is now, obviously he did run in '08 and it didn't work out with him. one day we blame romney, and we've seen a lot of blame for romney throughout the campaign. one day blaming the polling and liberal media. i think that's a stretch. when do we look at the ideology and the difficult sell that is for the american people. when you have a party where the conventional wisdom is that this is a party that is here for the rich to serve the rich and the corporations, that's a very difficult sell. i don't know that chris christie, regular guy, could sell that better. i don't know if rick santorum can sell that better than what we've seen already. >> well, obviously,
for the best negotiator in the business, ronald reagan, to achieve tax reform back in 1986. three years. >> only took us seven months under bush one. we put together a package because the president led that. the president met with foley, the president met with mitchell, he went down to congress to meet with them. he met with them in the white house. i was involve in negotiations with them and saw a president show leadership to get a bipartisan agreement. it didn't take him three years. it took him seven months. >> and the bush tax cuts are going to be continued by a president romney and then he will first begin negotiating with a new congress to try to come up with the money to pay for them? the bush tax cuts were continued by barack obama in 2010. they're in place now because barack obama supported them. he supported them because he recognized, as he said then, raising taxes when the economy is loudy is the wrong thing to do. he may not know it, but the economy is still lousy. you don't raise taxes now when the economy is lousy. >> to be continued, as always. governor sununu, thank you
't agree with that. is that right? >> i think it's premature in the sense in 1980 ronald reagan was running a bad campaign by lots of standards. he made a comment that trees pollute and that didn't go over well. he did say that. i'm serious. he made lots of other gaffes, but he went on to be president beating carter by quite a bit. i think romney is looking for a message. he produced a huge number of ads looking for something. maybe something comes out of the debate. this electorate is pretty hardened, and obama should be up by a point or two given the economy. that's where we are. so romney has not run a great campaign so far, but maybe this debate provides a springboard. we'll see. >> we will see. john gear, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all the focus is on the candidates this month. october is also important for another reason. it's got something to do with this. >> we can handle gimpy and the at that rant at that heads, because our invitation was not based on barf and mike and molly as part of the crew. >> i guess we're not in the crew anymore. >> you know, i was kind of hoping
. we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that said the economy is moving in the right direction, and i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. and much more than levels of variables like the level of the employment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> i think it was i
one ready to go but make it look like it came off the top of your head. ronald reagan was a master at that. let me play a little clip. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> it was a good one. it got a great laugh. perry, an argue was mamt by roger simon in politico this morning that mitt romney needs to have a few jokes to leave people with the impression he's a regular guy and not some cardboard cutout. how important are one liners and jakes? perry? >> it's so -- >> i'm sorry. robert. sorry. gosh. >> that's okay. i was waiting for that. it's very important because obviously what american people are looking for, they both know that these individuals are smart. what they're looking for is some type of personal impression by saying, you know what? i like this guy. not only does he get the job of being president, but he's funny and humorous as well. even george w. bush was good at that in 2004 and 2000. the question is whether mitt romney can connect with the american people. most know
is structurally sound. it's going to have to be tweaked the way it was by ronald reagan and speaker, democratic speaker tip o'neal. >> according to the congressional budget office, social security will run into financial trouble. by the year 2030 the amount social security pays out will exceed the tax revenue coming in. so, chris, in about 20 years the program will not be able to pay for itself. >> thank you for that, richard. we'll take a quick break, come back and let our panel weigh in on the medicare debate. we'll be right back. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. see? walmart has all these leading eyewear brands and styles. rockstar! really? yeah. oh, wow! oh, black frame looks good on you. yeah? you can get a complete pair starting at just -- $38. really?! and did you know that our glasses come with a free 12-month replacement guarantee? i didn't know walmart had all this. the price is impressive, the quality is too! come to walmart and see for yourself. find quality eyewear brands starting at just $38. only at walmart. what are they fitting, aliens? now w
in the last 40 years to obtain that kind of support was ronald reagan within his own party. barack obama is more popular within the party and the base right now at this point in the election than bill clinton was, than jimmy carter was with his party and bush sr. was with his party. energy is hard to measure. the measurements we have show a reaganesque party unity. >> matt has this great piece in the rolling stone where he says the presidential race never, ever should have been this close. the idea that we become like sports announcers. we want the tight game going into the fourth quarter. we want a hail mary pass at the end because it is more exciting. he points out that, in fact, this race is one given both who mitt romney is as a candidate as well as the extremely high support that president obama has within his base should never have been this close at all which goes to your point about sometimes the massive amount of money that's gone into the race to give us a different message about mitt romney. >> i want to add one disagreement to the disagreement. as much as popularity and the f
, there will be an increase. the government is wasting enough money already. i believe in the ronald reagan approach -- if i can finish my answer, you should not feed the beast. let's put the beast on a diet and spend a little less money. >> did the department of homeland security, does that count as feeding the beast or not? >> i have no contract with the department of homeland security. one more try in an attack, doesn't work. never done a contract with the department of homeland security. don't have one planned. don't get any money from the government. >> sure. >> you can try all those attacks that you want. i do private business with private individuals. get no money from the government. want to try another one? >> mayor giuliani, if you're inviting it. the difference is that under mitt romney, rich people will pay a lot less in taxes than what they would pay under president obama, because president obama would let the bush tax cuts expire for higher earning individuals only. so rich people pay less under romney and more under obama. that is the ultimate answer, right? >> the ultimate answer is if eithe
't told us how he's going to get the corporate rate down either. so a lot of this stuff, ronald reagan ran for president in 1984 said i want to do tax reform. he didn't have a plan, he came up with his plan and passed it two years later. >> there are a fair number of specifics out from both candidates. we're trying to parch them or compare them. >> well, some people in the media. there's a lot of media. and so different people do different things. i think there's more policy analysis available to people in all of the iterations of media. >> i think this would be the best platform for debate. do we have chuck yet, alex? >> he's not -- >> oh, good. new polls out from quinnipiac university show president obama with a narrow lead heading into wednesday's debate. president obama leading 49% among likely voters. but when it comes to women, president obama has stretched a lead to 18 points, 56% to 38%. the gap tightens when it comes to which candidate would better handle the economy, just one point separates them. when asked who would win tomorrow night's debate, the president nearly doubles mitt
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